- Pacemakers & ICDs
- “Do not implant pacemakers in patients with non-symptomatic bradycardia (slow heart rate).1
- [I admit to not knowing much about pacemakers. Happily one of the A-Fib.com’s contributors installs pacemakers and offers the following observations
- Implantable Cardioverter Defibrillator (ICD)
- “The worst part was the ICD firing,” he recalls. “It hit me a baseball bat and knocked me over.” His wife, Mary, was afraid to leave him alone. And the anxiety levels took their toll, even during sleep. “He became really anxious expecting a firing at any time,” she says. “You could see the fear in his eyes,” she reluctantly remembers. “He had to start taking antidepressants.”8
- Implantable Cardioverter Defibrillator (ICD)
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Pacemakers & ICDs
A pacemaker is a small device that sends electrical impulses to the heart muscle to maintain a regular heart rate.
In general, pacemakers are not very effective for preventing A-Fib and are not specifically used to treat A-Fib. But they can be of benefit to some patients.
Newer dual chamber pacemakers can possibly terminate A-Fib episodes with pacing and supress Premature Atrial Contractions (PACs) from triggering A-Fib by overdrive pacing.
Implanting a pacemaker seems to be most helpful if you have a slow heart rate or pauses (5+ seconds) as a result of taking A-Fib medications. But there is a danger for patients with this approach.
A slow or even very slow heart rate usually doesn’t cause any harm. As for heart rates, “normal” is indeed a wide swath. Some people, particularly athletes, can have a very slow heart rate and be perfectly healthy.
The same holds for asymptomatic pauses.
In the words of Dr. John Mandrola:
“Do not implant pacemakers in patients with non-symptomatic bradycardia (slow heart rate).1
Non-symptomatic slow heart rate or pauses don’t justify exposing patients to the risks of implanting a pacemaker. Another consideration is that implanting pacemaker leads in the veins of the upper chest often prevents or hinders future procedures that require vascular access a Pulmonary Vein Ablation/Isolation (PVI/A).
A pacemaker usually isn’t implanted unless your heart rate is too slow2 or you have Sinus Node and/or Atrioventricular (AV) Node problems. But be advised that pacemakers tend to have bad effects over the long term, “…a long-term morbidity (is) associated with a pacemaker.”3 Leadless pacemakers seem to have less complications than traditional ones.
For more information on Pacemakers, you may want to visit the pacemaker chat site: pacemakerclub.com. (Thanks to Mara for alerting us to this site.)
[I admit to not knowing much about pacemakers. Happily one of the A-Fib.com’s contributors installs pacemakers and offers the following observations
“I to tell patients who receive pacemakers that, after a couple of months, they can have a VERY active, normal lifestyle. All of the current pacers have a “rate responsive” mode, meaning they are designed specifically for activity. The more active you are, the faster the pacer goes. Three triathlon runners, and two NFL players have pacers. Most people forget they have a pacemaker.
A recent trend is to implant the ventricular lead on the septum vs. the right ventricular apex, which gives better cardiac output and a more ‘normal’ heartbeat. You might want to ask your doctor about this possibility. Even if your doctor does not prefer this technique, he/she will be impressed that you did your homework.
In addition, you always want a dual chamber pacer which will give better cardiac output. It will also attempt to synchronize between the atria and ventricles, unless the patient is in Chronic A-Fib.
If the A-Fib is intermittent, the pacer will temporarily switch modes to VVIR (ventricular only pacing) during the A-Fib, and then back to normal DDDR (dual chamber) pacing when the A-Fib terminates.
This is all done by the device memory/logic program.
So, during A-Fib, the DDDR pacer will switch to VVIR and pace only the ventricle during the A-Fib.”
Implantable Cardioverter Defibrillator (ICD)
Implantable Cardioverter Defibrillator (ICD)
An implantable cardiac defibrillator (ICD) is a device that is put within the body and is designed to recognize certain types of abnormal heart rhythms (arrhythmias) and correct them by delivering precisely calibrated and timed electrical shocks, when needed, to restore a normal heartbeat.
Having a defibrillator implanted in your heart is, from the point of view of most A-Fib patients, not a probable option. A defibrillator shock is painful, being “kicked in the chest.” Most people would rather have A-Fib than risk being shocked throughout the day and night. Also, it does not address the underlying problem or condition of your heart that causes your A-Fib.
Fewer than 10% of patients get shocked when a shock isn’t needed, according to Edward K. Kasper, MD of The Johns Hopkins Hospital..5 In another study 18% of patients with A-Fib received inappropriate first shocks.6
More than 30% of people who have ICDs develop emotional problems such as anxiety and depression—in part due to worry and uncertainty over whether the device will deliver an unnecessary shock and the fear of being shocked.7
What’s it living with an ICD and A-Fib? Roby T. shared:
“The worst part was the ICD firing,” he recalls. “It hit me a baseball bat and knocked me over.” His wife, Mary, was afraid to leave him alone. And the anxiety levels took their toll, even during sleep. “He became really anxious expecting a firing at any time,” she says. “You could see the fear in his eyes,” she reluctantly remembers. “He had to start taking antidepressants.”8
Our A-Fib.com pacemaker expert writes:
Last updated: Thursday, February 27, 2020
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Prevention of Sudden Cardiac Death
Being diagnosed with a disease that can cause sudden cardiac death is NOT a death sentence. If an individual is predisposed to SCD, then it is actually good to have a diagnosis so that appropriate therapy can be initiated.
Unfortunately, many people do not know they are at increased risk for SCD and thus do not have the treatments in place that can prolong their lives indefinitely. The information below lists some of the common measures used to prevent SCD.
It is by no means complete, and anyone who is at risk for SCD, should see a physician for optimal care of their particular risk factor.
Implantable cardioverter-defibrillator (ICD) +
For people who are at increased risk of succumbing to sudden cardiac arrest, an implantable cardioverter-defibrillator (ICD) device is a godsend. The ICD was invented by Dr. Michel Mirowski in the 1970s at Sinai Hospital of Baltimore, an affiliate of Johns Hopkins.
This is a metal device, half the size of a cell phone, which is placed in the chest. It attaches to the heart through several electrode wires. If the heart has an abnormal rhythm or stops, the ICD shocks the heart to reset the heart to a normal rhythm. The ICD has saved thousands of people's lives. Two problems with ICDs exist.
One is finding the people who would benefit the most from ICDs – as these are both expensive and not without risks. The second problem is inappropriate shocks- when the ICD “fires” without appropriate cause- and fear of such shocks can lead to anxiety in patients, affecting quality of life.
ICD devices are frequently placed in individuals with ARVC/D and in individuals who have had a heart attack.
Automated external defibrillator (AED) +
A second way to prevent sudden cardiac death is the use of an automated external defibrillator (AED). AEDs are often found in public places and places of business such as sports arenas, airports, and grocery stores.
These are extremely useful for individuals who have a sudden cardiac arrest, but who are not treated for the condition. If a person was to have a sudden cardiac arrest, a quick-acting good-samaritan could use one of these devices to rapidly restore a heartbeat.
AEDs are designed to be used by lay people and have been credited with saving thousands of lives.
Radiofrequency Ablation (RFA) +
In some cases of sudden cardiac arrest, complete heart stoppage is preceded by a dangerous arrhythmia, or abnormal beating of the heart.
Sometimes cardiologists can identify an abnormal electrical pathway in the heart and can burn the heart tissue in that area by radiofrequency catheter ablation (RFA).
This prevents the abnormal electrical pathway from causing arrhythmias and reduces the risk of sudden cardiac death. This treatment involves the insertion of a catheter through the venous system into the right ventricle.
Then the pathway causing arrthymias can be identified by electrical mapping. Finally, this abberant electrical pathway is zapped, reducing the risk of future arrhythmias. This has been used to successsfully treat Wolf-Parkinson-White disease and many other types of arrhythmia.
Anti-Arrhythmic Medications +
There are numerous pharmaceutical drugs that have proven benefit against arrhythmias that can lead to sudden cardiac death. In general terms these drugs regulate ion channels or nerve stimulation of the heart.
Specifically, they regulate sodium channels, potassium channels, calcium channels, and block sympathetic stimulation of the heart. Different medications work better on different types of arrhythmias.
The right medication can only be determined by a physcian an individual's unique risk factors.
Lifestyle Modification +
Some lifestyle modifcations can reduce the lihood of having a sudden cardiac death event. Unfortunately, some causes of sudden cardiac death occur with greater frequency among individuals who are very physically active.
Individuals with hypertrophic cardiomyopathy and ARVC/D, in particular, are told to refrain from intense physical activity which can cause an arrhythmic event to occur. Non-exertional exercise such as walking is encouraged.